Pacific Crest Trail Water Reports
Southern California Sections A - D

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The following water reports are compiled from posts to the PCT-L, on-line trail journals, and other on-the-ground reports.
All disclaimers apply. Info may not be accurate, and probably isn't. Hike your own hike.
Water sources change quickly. Reports are only as accurate as last report. The best way to send updates is email to "water" at "4jeffrey" dot "net". Or post to PCT-L.
Last update posted 1/30/12 24:00 PCT                     For more info click here.
Map Miles (NoBo) Location Report ("-" means no report) Date Reported By Posted
Water faucets may be closed for winter.
During wet weather there may be other streams not listed, and additional seasonal streams may be reported but will dry up quickly.
Most caches are no longer being restocked until April, as the main thru-hiker herd has passed through. Whatever water is left is all there is.
As the thruhikers have passed by, some reports may be old. Check the dates! Updated info from section hikers is always appreciated. Thanks.
A: Mexican Border to Warner Springs
At least 6 good-flowing creeks in the first 7-ish miles. There are two creeks near mile 7. 4/18/11 per Yogi. [Many of these are seasonal and could go dry earlier than listed sites.]
A1 1.1 Juvenile Ranch Facility Faucet behind sign. Others 30 yards to each side at grass. - - -
A1 1.3 Campo Town - Faucet & Store - - -
A1 ~2.5 Campo Crk (seasonal) flowing 2 feet wide 20 or 30 feet upstream from PCT crossing 1/14/12 Halfmile 1/17/12
A1 4.3 Creeklet (early spring) flowing 3 - 4 feet wide. Also ~Mile 6.5 & 6.6 two very small creeklets ~6" wide flowing across trail 1/14/12 Halfmile 1/17/12
A3 ~12.7 Creek (very seasonal) - - - -
A3 16.0 Hauser Creek (early spring) flowing 1 - 2 feet wide 1/14/12 Halfmile 1/17/12
If dry at crossing, try taking a right on the road E & walk up stream up to 200-300 yards. Periodically walk up to creek and check for pools. These last just a little longer than at trail.
A3 20.6 Lake Morena Campground water is on 1/15/12 Halfmile 1/17/12
A5 24.6 Cottonwood Creek Bridge (early spring) flowing 4 - 6 feet wide 1/15/12 Halfmile 1/17/12
A5 26.0 Cottonwood Creek bed (usually dry) flowing 4 - 6 feet wide 1/15/12 Halfmile 1/17/12
A5 26.4 Boulder Oaks Campground - USFS water is off Campground closed 3/1-6/15 for Arroyo Toad breeding season per USFS website 1/15/12 Halfmile 1/17/12
Faucet is on short brown post across first dirt road the PCT meets in camp. A second faucet is on a tall brown post a little ways further along the road.
A5 26.5 Boulder Oaks Store Closed permanently
A5 ~26.8 Kitchen Creek near I-8 water 4/19/11 - 4/19/11
A5 ~30 Kitchen Creek (100 feet below trail) good water flowing 4-6 ft wide 0.4 mile N of PCT where creek crosses the road @ mile 30.6 1/15/12 Halfmile 1/17/12
Or continue to paved road at 30.6 and take a left and then a dirt road down to the water (~0.4 mile).
A6 32.4 Fred Canyon (usually dry) flowing 1 foot wide 1/16/12 Halfmile 1/17/12
A6 33.0 Cibbets Flat Campground (Fred Cyn Road 16S08 0.8 m NW) - USFS water from several spigots or the creek ~12/24/11 rpm4463 12/30/11
A6 33.0 Fred Cyn Road 16S08 (0.1 m E) (seasonal) ? - - -
walk 500 ft downhill E, turn right at the first obvious place, almost immediately see a seasonal stream
A6 37.0 Long Canyon (next is easier) - - - -
A6 38.1 Long Canyon Creek ford flowing 1 - 2 feet wide 1/16/12 Halfmile 1/17/12
A6 39.1 Lower Morris Mdw (0.3 m NW) slow drip 6/14/11 SirMixALot 6/19/11
Horse camp. Turn left at little H2O sign, walk 3 minutes to the word “TO” on a fence post. Pass fence, Turn 45 degrees left on faint path along hillside 150 yards to Pipe spring trough with big tank
A7 41.6 Burnt Rancheria Campgrd (south end) USFS - - - -
Turn left at signed junction where PCT joins Desert View Trail. (Sign does not mention campground.) Faucet at site 48 close to PCT.
A7 42.3 Burnt Rancheria CG jct - drinking fountain (seasonal) I was told Burnt Ranch cg water is turned off, but water in Laguna ~12/10/11 rpm4463 12/30/11
A7 43.0 Mt. Laguna town (0.4 mi S of trail) drinking fountain at Visitor Center on & will be on all year thanks to a heated system that prevents it from freezing, although it may take up to a couple minutes before water comes out. The bathrooms were open too.
(Store open 9-5. Post office open M-F 12-4, Sat 9-11. per PCT-L 4/9)
10/23/10 SirMixALot 10/24/10
A7 43.2 Desert View Picnic Area water ~12/10/11 rpm4463 12/30/11
Access on left 50 yards after you walk under a picnic table on the upper left. Or from road north on the store.Three water sources here: 1. On SW side of loop at end of road (nearest PCT) is a small, two car parking pad. To left & forward a bit is a heavy metal pipe with faucet in small concrete circle, right next to a big tree. This faucet reported to be insulated and should be on year round. 2. Drinking faucet next to restrooms. Off in winter. 3. Sink in restrooms.
A8 47.9 Laguna Campground USFS (0.7 mi SE) - - - -
Leave trail near wooden overlook. Total walk to the campground and back to the faucet is one mile round trip.
A8 48.0 Oasis Spring (1/2 mi down) - - - -
A8 48.9 G.A.T.R. faucet (0.1 mi SW) water spigot frozen ~12/24/11 rpm4463 12/30/11
"Road" in book now a trail. At Penny Pines there are 2 trails going off to W (left nobo) toward highway. The most southerly one is the most direct. Both side trails are marked with Carsonite Posts w/Noble Canyon Trail decal. 100 yds straight to & then 50 yds across Hwy S1 to trough & faucet. (Water system is filled by portable generator, so subject to outage.)
A8 52.7 Pioneer Mail Picnic Area plenty of water (frozen in the morning) in the water tank ~12/24/11 rpm4463 12/30/11
At north end is trough fed by pipe from a water tank (limited supply). Per USFS 5/3/07, ""The water source at pioneer Mail is filled by Fire engine. That water should only be used by livestock would not suggest that people drink it, even if they filter it."
A8 ~57.2 Oriflamme Cyn (usually dry) - - - -
A9 ~59.0 Sunrise Trailhead (0.5 mi W) - - - -
NEW. Near BM 5015. A new trail (marked with sign "Sunrise Highway .25 Mi" on post) follows the 5,000-foot contour 1/4 mile SW to the highway. Across the highway to the South are new parking lot & pit restrooms (at last "5" in "BM 5015" on Map A9). To west a well is visible. Follow old road W 1/8 mile to well (at "B" in "BM 5015"). A sign says the water is for horses only & not potable. Turn green handle on ball valve so it is lined up with pipe, lift flap over trough, push down float valve in trough down to get water from pipe, or just filter from trough. Faucet on well itself does not work (except rarely when pump is running).
A9 61.1 Faint jeep track above Oriflamme Cyn (trough 1 mi W) - Windmill gone, dry forever as of 3/11/05
A10 62.2 Mason Valley Truck Trail (concrete water tank 75 yds E - often dry) [assume DRY] - - -
A10 63.5 Upper Chariot Cyn (0.6 to 1.8 mi N) - - - -
There are springs and seasonal streams 0.6 to 1.8 mi N. There is also a concrete fire water tank 1.2 miles N, on map map it is the small circle at the end of a short spur to the east (between the "Y" and "O" of "Chariot CanYOn" on map). Follow spur road ~75 yards. Access from steel door on top.
A10 68.4 Rodriguez Spur Truck Tr (Tank visible 75'W) - - - -
Nozzle 50' downhill to tank, nozzle below tank [WARNING - wasting water here could result in the tank being locked and unavailable to hikers.]
A10 68.4 Spring 1.1 NW - - - -
1.1 miles NW of PCT on Rodriguez Spur Truck trail, ~50 ft uphill from large rust colored water tank.
A11 77.2 Scissors Crossing Caches 5 gallons before and 5 gallons after Hwy S2 [will go fast] [NOTE: Yes, the wood shelves and chair are gone, don't know where they went, any info let me know.] [can go empty fast!] 1/14/12 Snap 1/30/12
Julian 12 miles W on Hwy 78 or Stagecoach Trails CG 4 miles S on Hwy S-2 where owner asks hikers to come during normal business hours, 9am-5pm, for showers & pool, store.
A11 77.4 San Felipe Creek under Highway 78 - - - -
In spring, there MAY be shallow water 250 yards NNW in stream under large healthy-looking cottonwood trees (that look like trees and not large shrubs) – walk right side of streambed until near these trees
A12 91.2 Third Gate Cache Several dozen gallons along the side trail - take only what you need, leave some for next guy!] 10/21/11 Sir MixALot 10/27/11
Cache is 100 yards down side trail just past gate.
[Ed. note: It's a lot of work to get water up here. Take only what you need to get to Barrel Spring 11 miles ahead, and don't waste it. Thanks!]
If no water, a small trail (signed "water") leads downhill & east of the PCT. 1.5 miles from PCT to the jeep road ENE of "The Big Square Post." Turn left & walk another 1 to 1.5 miles to a small "ranch." Follow the dirt road N until it crosses the stream bed and makes a left turn. Within a few feet, turn right on the road going thru the gate. Proceed 20-30 yds to another gate & find a faucet on right hand side with a garden hose attached. Use this faucet ONLY.           BUT...The owner asks that hikers return to the trail (unless there is a medical emergency). PERMISSION TO TAKE WATER IS NOT AN OPEN INVITATION TO VISIT THE OWNER/EMPLOYEES, NOR TO CAMP ON THE RANCH ITSELF. Respect the owner's property and NOT GO NEAR any pen with livestock for any reason. Respect the rights of others and have a safe hike! [Ed. note: This could be 6 miles round trip, compared to 11 miles to Barrel Spring.]
Another possibility – "down the side trail is a water cistern very much closer than walking to the ranch for water. I put a bucket and a rope in there so you can pull the water up and its kind of dirty but its certainly clean enough to use a filter on." (Laurence The Spring Guy) Walk one mile down same trail as above, then at jct turn left 100 yds to cistern near some rock ruins. Others have reported they'd rather walk to the ranch.
A13 101.4 Barrel Spring Water slowly trickling (or quickly dripping) from pipe, trough 1/4 full of water to filter. (Source pool dirtier than trough.) 1/7/12 AsABat 1/9/12
If the trough is empty, there probably is water at the spring source. Go back south on PCT around to other side of the hill behind the trough. Go ~100 yards back up the trail (heading southbound) and look for an old "path" that leaves the trail to your "right rear" (about 120 degree angle). The spring is near the top of the ridge, normally covered by a screen. Please KEEP IT CLEAN! Please do not touch the bucket, rocks, or other workings in the spring. Please not put feet, bandanas in, or wash their faces over the drinking water. Drip it elsewhere. Too many seriously sick hikers last year.Don't stir up the water, so others can get clear water too.
A13 ~104.4 Spring-fed metal cattle trough NE of Hill 3406 (0.2 NE, visible from PCT) (Usually skipped) - - -
A13 ~104.9 Round concrete trough below mouth of San Ysidro Creek (0.2 W, sign points the way) (Usually skipped) - - -
A13 105.2 San Ysidro Creek (In late spring can be wet in a.m. and dry in p.m.) flowing well 2' wide, 4 to 6" deep 1/9/12 Robert 1/9/12
A13 ~106.1 Spring-Fed Metal Trough - .2 miles along faint truck path NE up hill from PCT. Trough not visible to NoBo hikers until after they are N of the truck path. Truck path is .3 miles Sobo of Eagle Rock. - - -
A13 ~106.3 Water Tank visible 0.2 mi South of PCT at Eagle Rock
has 2 cattle troughs w/flowing water if you push down on float valve.
1/8/12 Halfmile 1/17/12
A13 ~106.4 Eagle Rock Spring - Spring-Fed Metal Trough - .3 miles N of Eagle Rock over hill near road. (or access via roads) - - - -
A13 ~108 Cañada Verde flowing well 2'-3' wide, 6"-10" deep, for about a mile, from mile 108 to 109. Goes dry ~1/4 mile before Hwy 79. 1/9/12 Robert 1/9/12
A14 109.6 Hwy 79 (South) (0.2 mi NE) no water 1/18/12 WS Monty 1/30/12
The Fire Station previously here has been demolished so no water available, but faucets at ballfields across hwy.
A14 109.6 Warner Springs town 1.2 mi NE - faucets on left side of Mini Mart, restrooms in back CAUTION: Resort has been sold & currently CLOSED. In past Water was available at gas station, post office and building behind post office. Also at the church. These may NOT be available now. Updates are appreciated. - - 1/17/12
B: Warner Springs to San Gorgonio Pass
B1 ? Private campground There a working water faucet in campground with huge oak tree SOUTH of the north Warner Springs Trailhead. After passing huge oak tree & before leaving that parking area it is sticking up on right. MAY BE UNAVAILABLE AS RESORT HAS BEEN SOLD. 5/2/11 Jackandbarb 1/17/12
B1 111.4 Highway 79 (North) (can be murky) No water 10/22/11 Sir MixALot 10/27/11
B1 112.6 Agua Caliente Creek just past picnic tables Water 10/22/11 Sir MixALot 10/27/11
B2 115.1 Agua Caliente Creek much more water than previous source 10/22/11 Sir MixALot 10/27/11
B2 119.5 Lost Valley Spring (0.2 mi off trail) water (Spring pool approx 1.5' deep 5/10, Nearby creek flowing 1" deep and 6" wide with nice pool for dipping water out of) 5/13/11 Craig 5/17/11
Spring fed from bottom of pool. Can have "leafy" taste, which is removed by filtering. The spring is good & NOT vandalized (unlike what guidebook says), and is only 300 yds off trail and 80 ft lower in elevation. May not be marked - look for 3 foot high cement post, then follow the abandoned road downhill 0.2 mi. (PCT turns right before post.) In early season there may be a better small stream 150 feet past the spring.
~126.5 (Below per Sir MixALot 10/23/11):
121.7 They mostly wet the trail, but would be good if you dig a hole and wait for it to fill.
123.7. They mostly wet the trail, but would be good if you dig a hole and wait for it to fill.
B3 127.1 Chihuahua Valley Rd (0.2 mi E) Water at tank at house 10/23/11 Sir MixALot 10/27/11
0.2 mi E to driveway 31440 Chihuahua Valley Rd, then 0.1 m N to private NEW water tank above house. "water in tank should be filtered. If no water in tank there should be water on back porch - go through hole in fence next to water tank and down the trail to house there is a netted porch to keep the bugs off, and a shower out side." per Mike Herrera at the house (10/30/09). he is very eager to meet and assist hikers, they are welcome to stop by his place.
B3 127.1 Chihuahua Valley Road Cache (20 yds N of road) a few gallons [if dry, see tank at house above] [But also see house, especially if cache empty] 10/23/11 Sir MixALot 10/27/11
B3 127.1 (SDSU Sky Oaks Bio Field Station 2.5 mi W) - Concrete fire tank just above road. Heavy metal plate to reach faucet. - - -
B4 136.2 Tule Creek dry 10/24/11 Sir MixALot 10/27/11
B4 136.6 Tule Spring (Tule Cyn Rd, 0.25 mi SE) water 10/24/11 Sir MixALot 10/27/11
B4 ~139.3 Guzzler water (holds ~300 gallons per Spring Guy) 10/24/11 Sir MixALot 10/27/11
CAUTION - top is fragile and unsafe, do not stand on it. In Section 16 just after PCT goes sharp right to follow just below 2,600' contour on Map B4, beside directly trail on left. (Cistern is underground, looks like an 12x24' old broken parking lot) 1-foot diameter eyebrow opening with pink hand pump with green 5-gallon bucket
B4 139.8 Nance Canyon (early season) dry 10/4/11 Special K 10/5/11
B5 142.7 Anza (5.8 mi NW from sandy jeep rd) Town - - -
B5 142.7 Hiker's Oasis Cache no Water
Note: 100 ft beyond Cache site the road is gated w/warning signs of fire danger & trespassing. Please stay on trail past the NEXT crossing of Table Mtn Rd in 4 miles
[can go quickly] [aka Anza Cache]
10/4/11 Special K 10/5/11
B5 151.3 Pines-to-Palms Hwy 74 (1.0 mi NW) Paradise Valley Cafe 951-659-FOOD open M 9-3, W-Sun. 8-8, closed Tues.
water from hose, cafe likes hikers.
5/3/11 Isildur 5/3/11
The faucet is south of the building toward the back, about 12 feet away from the SW corner of the building at the edge of the grass area. It lacks a handle, so improvised pliers were required.
A trail "inside the fence runs along S side of Hwy 74" to Restaurant.)
B5 151.3 Pines-to-Palms Cache Irregular small cache at road [Cache had been behind stone monument north of parking lot - NOT regularly maintained] 4/25/11 Outpost 5/1/11
B6 155.0 Penrod Cyn (usually dry) pool about three feet across. Looks a bit murky 10/22/11 Special K 10/27/11
B6 158.0 Live Oak Spring (1.0 mi E) Gushing water 5/31/11 MSJ Info 6/13/11
Descend from saddle on spur trail. Take use trail that branches to RIGHT at bottom of slope, trough filled by pipe is ~40yds upstream along the use trail.
B6 158.0 Tunnel Spring (0.3 mi W) Clear water flowing 3 liters per minute from pipe into trough. The water does have a sulfur taste. 6/24/11 Halfmile 6/28/11
If you opt for Tunnel Spring, make sure you take the right fork of the trail once you reach the bottom. The trough is upstream along dry creek. The trough is slowly fed from spring by pipe. In May/June 2011 most reported a sulfur taste.
B7 162.3 Cedar Spring (Trail 4E17, 1.0 mi N) good water 10/23/11 Special K 10/27/11
500 ft drop. Piped tank. A 2nd, 200 gallon green cattle trough w/better flow (esp. in fall) is another 300ft up canyon from 1st tank. Horizontal, USFS taps feed both tanks.
B7 ~163 Eagle Spr(~0.25 mi S) trail has been cleared & reposted along PCT. 3/4 mile N past Cedar Spr jct, where PCT becomes 10' wide on a ridge "hogback", on left a 2" dia 4'tallwhite PVC post, ~6-8' off on a side trail, marked "Eagle Spring, 1/4" with an arrow pointing W. Trail is reasonably clear, however a little rocky in spots. 10 minute walk to water. At a lone Spruce tree at a dry creekbed, trail resumes past the tree through a small overgrown section of trail another 300' to deadend at a 200 gallon cattle trough, perched on hillside, with horizontal pipe tap drizzling into it. Flow a few ounces per minute 4/30/11, cool and clear. Tastes same as Cedar Spring. Same kind of trough. I did not filter it. [In past rarely used] 4/30/11 Lone Walker 5/1/11
B7 166.3 Fobes Saddle (0.5 m S) stream water (Spring cleaned & tank full 5/14 per Spring Guy) 6/12/11 Blue Butterfly 6/11/11
Walk down old Fobes Trail [NW] ~0.8 mile to Scovel Crk (usually running during thruhike season, may go dry in summer). 100 ft past that creek crossing a forest service spring w/a 70-gallon rubbermaid tub w/pipe. Nice flat camp spot.
B7 168.9 Apache Spring (Trail DOWN 0.5 mi E) good water 10/24/11 Special K 10/27/11
3 x 3 foot spring box, steep rocky trail down to it.
SNOW: postholling up to my waist just N of Red Taquits last week, no other footprints in snow from just past Appache peak to L Taquits V shortcut and all the way to saddle jct. Apache peak coverd with snow but I found farther north far more diffucult with snow shoots covering the trail in 10 or more spots rite up to the dropoff's (Ken <1/9/12)
B9 ~176.6 Tahquitz Creek about 10 inces to a foot wide running fast and clear 10/25/11 Special K 10/27/11
B9 176.7 Little Tahquitz Valley (Trail, 0.33 mi N) - - - -
Two sources: 1=at creek x'ing on map just S of "Tahquitz Meadow." 2=spring just N of "V" in "Valley" & S of 4-way jct (UTM 11S 531070 3736632). From 4way jct in Tahquitz Val, go S towards Little Tahquitz Val.~2-3 mins S of jct is small drainage w/line of trees in it. Just S of drainage is edge of Tahquitz Mdw. ~20' past drainage, look 90deg E into mdw for log ~40-50' away lying ~parallel to trail. N end of log points to spring. Spg is closer to drainage than log but not in drainage. Walk N from log & listen for spring. Only see when close; flows from pipe into small recessed hollow.
B9 178.6 Idyllwild (Saddle Jct, 4.5 mi W) Town. - - -
B9 181.5 Strawberry Cienaga Several springs across trail from Strawberry to rivers <7/3/11 rlh 7/4/11
Marion Creek, 200 yds E of Strawberry Jct Camp (which is 100 yds E of Deer Springs Trail) On 16 June 2011, the creek had enough water to pump through a filter, but it was just a trickle with pools. (Per PCTA)
B10 184.9 Deer Springs/N. Fork San Jacinto River water 6/20/11 MSJ Info 6/24/11
In 2007, Notes from hikers at the creekbed direct you to a small rock cairn 25 yards north on the PCT. From there you can scramble 50 yards uphill and back toward the creekbed along a faint use trail until you see water dripping off the rocks into a 18" pool you can dip or filter from. Other hikers found water down gully to left amid ferns and skunk cabbage.
B10 ~185.4 Tributary of N. Fork San Jac River running strong 7/1/11 J J 7/4/11
B10 ~185.6 Tributary of N. Fork San Jac River running strong 7/1/11 J J 7/4/11
B10 190.2 Fuller Ridge Trailhead (Seasonal-150yds L) Seasonal spring is dry 10/24/11 Lone Walker 10/27/11
Just when PCT meets dirt parking area, go left past yellow post 150 yds down side trail to meadow with tiny pools in stream bed [early season only]
B10 190.5 BlackMtnCamp (Seasonal-Rd4S01,1.3mi SW) ALL faucets have been capped, at both bathroom & camping spots. small drainage in the ravine just in front of the camp, water flowing 1-2 gpm, many standing pools containing 20-30 gallons. 10/23/11 Lone Walker 10/27/11
This is the signed group camp, not the numerous other yellow post campsites, that has the piped water to the faucet behind toilets thanks to the spring that is slightly uphill and in a ravine
There is another spring on the road 1.5 miles further downhill from this campground (3 miles from PCT, 4.5 miles up from Hwy 243) This one has 2 pipes - one was a pipe with a constant drip labled "non-potable, do not drink" and a spigot labeled "drinking water". Water at this source 4/19/11.
B10 ~199.5 mile 198: small 6" dia pool, green
mile 199.5: dry
mile 200.7: approx 1.5 gpm, 4"-6" wide, 2" deep
mile 201.2: mud, no surface water
mile 201.7: pool 4' x 6', 8" deep, brown tinted water full of decomposing leaves
~12/11/11 Lone Walker 12/13/11
PCT crosses a seasonal drainage several times at approx. 198 (4400'), 199.5 (4000'), 200.7 (3500'), 201.2 (3300'), & 201.7 (3200').
B11 205.6 Snow Canyon Rd (faucet)Desert Water Agency Faucet is on 11/4/11 Lone Walker 11/7/11
B11 ~207.6 Snow Creek Village water from stone drinking fountain and hose bib at curbside In 2010 In Snow Creek Village, take 1st street on left & and go to 3rd house on right (Lance & Tracy, 15881 Falls Creek Rd (5/1/10)).Water faucet & temporary shade in yard. They might be able to help with EMERGENCIES & provide fresh citrus. Other houses in Snow Creek Village should not be approached, Respect private property. 5/8/11 Patty 5/18/11
B11 209.6 Cabazon (Tamarack Road, 4.5 mi W) Town. go W on the road between I-10 and the RR tracks, to left (W) on other side of some rocks.
seasonal stream (treat) running strong from I10 underpass to at least 1/2 mile S
5/7/11 JnB 5/16/11
C: San Gorgonio Pass to Interstate 15 near Cajon Pass
C1 210.6 "Pink Motel" sold and not available to hikers anymore. They will NOT be able to accept mail drops. Please do not disturb the property owners.
C1 ~211.2 Cottonwood Creek (X almost always dry) no water <10/11/11 can't quit 10/12/11
C1 213.4 Mesa Wind Farm office open til 2:00. Friendly staff, bottled water for hikers inside, knock on door. (11-3-11) 11/3/11 Lone Walker 11/7/11
Sign posted on trail indicating shade & water available and a friendly "Stop by and say Hi". 100 yds E, then 80 yds N. Office open M-F 6-2.
Large (~1.5 inches) hose and valve by fence. Water is from tank (not ugly pond). Close valve tightly.
C1 ~216 North tributary Teutang Cyn (seasonal) no water <10/11/11 can't quit 10/12/11
C1 ~218 (0.5 mi. off trail) Whitewater Preserve great place to spend the night Former trout farm now owned by Wildlands Conservancy. Ranger Frazier (760-325-7222) welcomes all PCT hikers from the trail. They have shade, water, toilets, and overnight camping for PCT hikers ONLY. They do NOT have showers or package dropoffs. 6/11/11 Evil Goat 6/14/11
C1 218.6 Old jeep road near Whitewater Creek - - - -
C2 222.0 Whitewater Creek just n. of Red Dome 12-16" deep, 10' wide creek, tons of water. 10/16/11 Lone Walker 10/18/11
C2 222.0 Whitewater creek tributary 4" deep, 3'-4' wide creek, good flow 10/16/11 Lone Walker 10/18/11
C2 226.0 East Fork Mission Creek crossing creek is 6' wide, 6-8" deep, fast flowing 11/2/11 Lone Walker 11/7/11
C3 226.9 End of dirt road next to East Fk Mission Crk creek is 6-7' wide, 6-8 " deep, fast flowing 11/2/11 Lone Walker 11/7/11
C4 231.8 Mission Creek crossing creek is 4' wide, 3-4" deep, flowing well 11/2/11 Lone Walker 11/7/11
C4 235.0 Creekside camp small creek 12" wide, 2" deep, flowing well 11/2/11 Lone Walker 11/7/11
C4 238.0 Forested flats junction small creek 12-16" wide, 2" deep, flowing well 11/2/11 Lone Walker 11/7/11
C4 239.3 Mission Spr Trail Camp water (flowing well, several liters per minute 4/24 per devil) <10/11/11 can't quit 10/12/11
When trail reaches dirt road, turn left SE thru 4x4 wood railing at end of road, then 60 yds up closed road to table. Then turn left E and walk 110 yards past horse corral. At end of corral turn right & follow path 100 yds to water in a gully, dripping off root into blue bucket. (Spigots at corral are capped off, but there may be a very slow gravity flow from a hose there.)
Another possible source: at wood railing at end of road, turn 90 degrees right SSW up hill, then W 75 yds from road to concrete horse trough marked "USFS"
C4 242.0 CR&HTrail to Heart Bar Crk (seasonal)(0.5 mi NW) [assume dry until rains] - - 10/12/11
C4 246.2 Coon Creek R 1N02 (1.5 mi W to Coon Crk - thru Spring) - - - -
Just off trail to R ~1/8 mile up the hill is a shelter w/nice bathroom, trash & picnic table. NO WATER at this site, creek is 1.5 miles the other side of PCT.
C4 251.9 Onyx Summit Cache fully stocked 5/18/11 Justin 5/20/11
C4 ~252.9 Cache ~a mile after Onyx Summit, with a couch - cache 5/9/11 JnB 5/16/11
C5 255.9 Arrastre Trail Camp at Deer Spring (faucet; creek next 1.5 miles) double handspan stream (faucet off 4/24 per devil) 6/26/11 Puddlejumper 7/2/11
Faucet in camp labeled non-potable, for horses only (2008). Trail crosses creekbed several times for ~mile before camp & several miles after (listed below) .
C5 ~257.7 Creek xing N of Arrastre Camp flowing 4/24/11 devil 5/1/11
C4 265.4 Hwy 18 Cache water cache 6/27/11 Puddlejumper 7/2/11
C7 267.8 Doble Trail Camp - - - -
Well-signed rutted brushy old road angles slightly left off PCT 0.13 mi. This side trail follows a fenced marshy/grassy patch. At the end of this grassy patch the area opens up to reveal the huge new outhouse (reported 11/5/06), horse area, picnic table, fire ring, etc on the right. There are two spigots, one R at horse corral (better flow) and one L near outhouse (There may be a sign saying the water is not-potable (but could be filtered).)
C7 272.1 2nd jeep rd (Saragossa Spr 0.67 mi N) - - - -
C7 274.1 Caribou Creek at Van Dusen Cyn Rd ankle deep 6/27/11 Puddlejumper 7/2/11
C8 280.2 Delamar Spring (Rd 3N12, 0.9 mi W) Delamar Creek at PCT mile 284 (On trail, not on Rd 3N12) good flow 5/21/11 Justin 5/28/11
C9 284.6 Little Bear Springs Trail Camp (faucet) lots of water in area (Faucet capped off 5/11 per JnB) 5/20/11 Bigfoot Jim 5/23/11
faucet is slightly uphill & to left from new picnic table
C9 284.9 Holcomb Creek steady flow (at different locations, Holcomb was anywhere from 2' across to a decent wade) 6/28/11 Puddlejumper 7/2/11
C9 ~291 Cienega Larga Fork - - - -
C9 291.2 Holcomb Creek at Crab Flats Rd. steady flow (at different locations, Holcomb was anywhere from 2' across to a decent wade) 6/28/11 Puddlejumper 7/2/11
C10 292.4 Cienega Redonda Tr @fork of Holcomb Crk flowing 4/27/11 devil 5/1/11
C10 292.8 Holcolmb Creek at Hawes Ranch Trail flowing 4/27/11 devil 5/1/11
C10 293.1 Holcomb Crossing Trail Camp steady flow (at different locations, Holcomb was anywhere from 2' across to a decent wade) 6/28/11 Puddlejumper 7/2/11
C11 297.2 Deep Creek Bridge lovely and possible perhaps even to swim at some ponds 6/28/11 Puddlejumper 7/2/11
PCT is closed due to rock slides & a damaged bridge.
Nobo, cross Splinter's Cabin Bridge & turn left @ the N end & begin following red re-route markers. (The CLOSED PCT goes right.)
Hike up 3N34C ~1/3 mi to 3N34, turn right (N) & continue on 3N34 ~6.5 miles. Every road junction is clearly marked w/red posts.
At Hwy 173 jct, turn right; follow pavement which turns to dirt, pass thru gate & continue past lower gate ~3/10s mile from parking area where PCT proper crosses 173 (7.5mi)
(Per San Bernardino NF 3/14/11.) See Halfmile's detour maps
Water: (patches of water thru HOV part, one or two decent size, min ankle deep sometimes a few inches higher 6/29/11 per Puddlejumper)
Detour mile 2.7 Nice small river (JnB 5/13/11)
Detour mile 3.7 Big stream flowing well (JnB 5/13/11)
Detour mile 5.3 Willow Creek flowing well (JnB 5/13/11)
Detour mile 9.1 Bridge over Kinley Creek good water strong stream flowing (JnB 5/13/11)
As you turn on to 173 there is a great piped spring don't miss it (MotherGoose 5/14/11)
2.7 miles in on the detour is a nice small river 3.7 miles in is a big stream flowing well Willow creek is flowing well We had to wade 2 creeks knee deep
C12 ~305 Seasonal stream at bottom of Map C12 - - - -
C12 306.6 Deep Creek Hot Spring - - - -
C13 312.1 Deep Creek ford -
C13 ~313.2 Hwy 173Cache small cache 5/13/11 JnB 5/16/11
C13 315.2 Trailside spring in canyon (seasonal) dry 6/29/11 Puddlejumper 7/2/11
C14 ~316.7 Pipe spring before Grass V Crk patchy nasty water in holes in rock 6/29/11 Puddlejumper 7/2/11
Just before joining Grass Valley jeep road (about 200 ft) there is a piped spring on the right side of the trail, just below. You can hear it and there's a large black tube next to the trail that marks the spot.(About 200-300 yards before creek)
C14 317.0 Grass Valley Creek flowing strong about 6' across and ankle deep 6/29/11 Puddlejumper 7/2/11
C14 320.3 Summit Valley Store closed indefinitely. (0.3 mi NW on very rough & overgrown jeep road)
C14 ~322.7 Cedar Springs Dam (pools below dam at PCT) plenty of water, full of algae 6/30/11 Puddlejumper 7/2/11
C15 ~325.2 Stream flowing into the lake at Chamise Boat-In Picnic Area (in Section 6) (Early season only) Dried up 5/13/11 JnB 5/16/11
C15 328.3 Cleghorn Picnic Area (two-lane bike path, 0.5 mi E) faucet [at restrooms] plenty of access to silverwood lake 6/30/11 Puddlejumper 7/2/11
C15 328.5 Silverwood Lake State Recreation Area (road 1.7 mi E) road passes park office while paralleling PCT & xing pct again after office. Water hose bib & fountain in parking lot & in group camp past highway. - - - -
C15 332.8 Small stream trickle flow, but filterable, maybe 1' across and 2-3" deep [can be a morning-only stream after early season] 6/30/11 Puddlejumper 7/2/11
C15 335.6 Little Horsethief Canyon (dry creek) nice stream 5/14/11 JnB 5/16/11
C17 341.7 Crowder Canyon flowing 10/24/11 Paul 10/27/11
C17 342.1 Interstate 15 in Cajon Canyon (0.6 mi NW town) McDonalds & Chevron mini-mart 5/14/11 JnB 5/16/11
D: Interstate 15 near Cajon Pass to Agua Dulce
D1 347.4 Swarthout Cyn Cache (100yds S) about 3 gallons 10/24/11 Paul 10/27/11
D1 347.9 Bike Spring (block trough just below trail) not flowing 10/24/11 Paul 10/27/11
there is NO WATER reported between Bike Spring and Wrightwood/Guffy Camp, no seasonal streams in this area. (5/27/11 per Justin)
D3 363.6 Wrightwood (Acorn Cyn Tr, 4.5 mi N) Town
[8"x8" post a foot high on left. Acorn Tr is to right.] Isolated drifts on first mile of Acorn Tr
5/5/11 Todd 5/6/11
D3 364.6 Guffy Campground (~275 yds N) ANF flowing 10/23/11 Paul 10/27/11
~275 yards N DOWN STEEP slope to old red pump house in Flume Cyn. Take wide use trail at rock cairn on the right (N) below guard rail just before PCT enters the campgrd ~50 yds E of the water tank. Spring UTM 0439545, 3800530 elev. 7724.
D4 370.5 Grassy Hollow Visitor Center water 6/27/11 - 7/2/11
D4 371.6 Jackson Flat Group Campgrd (spur road) water is on 5/5/11 Todd 5/6/11
D5 375.7 Lamel Spring (trail, 0.06 mi S) good flow and looks clean, but purify your water because many dog owners reported letting their dog drink directly from it or even letting their dogs lay in it. [in a small rock opening covered my a metal grid.] 6/27/11 SirMixALot 6/28/11
D6 381.9 Lily Spring (trail, 0.33 mi N) There is no trail sign to indicate this spring. Using Halfmile's map, I followed an unused trail down the canyon but soon lost it. After a search, found no sign of the spring. 6/15/08 Beeman 6/15/08
D6 383.8 Little Jimmy Spring (Bear area 2005) piped water 6/25/11 Evil Goat 6/25/11
D6 ~384.1 Windy Spring - - - -
Endangered Species Closure - In order to protect the mountain yellow-legged frog, the PCT is closed between Eagles Roost (390.2) and Burkhart Trail (393.8). Instead of a very dangerous road walk, the following detour is in place:
From Islip Saddle leave PCT and go N on the South Fork Tr 4.8 miles to South Fork Campgrd, then E on High Desert Natl Rec Trail & then the Burkhart Tr back to PCT, a total detour of 18.2 miles. Angeles National Forest. Closure order thru 12/31/11. See Halfmile's detour maps.
 
Detour Mile 0.0, spring on the map to the N on the road at Islip Saddle about 0.4 miles that was flowing nicely in 2010 (Colorado Pete)
Detour Mile 1.0+/-, Reed Spring on the map/on the trail flowing nicely in 2010 (Colorado Pete)
Detour Mile 4.6 - South Fork of Big Rock Creek near campground - Big rock creek full flow, excellent water from snow melt. (Canoeman 4/30/11)
Detour Mile 4.8 - South Fork Campground - Big rock creek at full flow, lots of snow melt (Canoeman 4/3/11)
Detour Mile ~7 Holcomb cyn - ???
Detour Mile ~9 Punchbowl Canyon Creek - full flow from snow melt (Canoeman 4/30/11)
Detour Mile 10.4 - Devils Punchbowl County Park (0.8 mile off detour, worth seeing) - has several water fountains but not all of them work. The water fountain next to the fire hose in the red box does work and has good pressure. NOTE camping not allowed at this park. (Halfmile 3/31/10, water still on 10/10/10 per Colorado Pete)
D7 391.8 Little Rock Creek - - - -
D7 ~392.5 Rattlesnake Spring - - - -
FIRE RESTRICTIONS: The Angeles NF was CLOSED from here to Soledad Cyn because of the Station Fire cleanup with a long road walk. This closure will be lifted for PCT HIKERS ONLY on May 7, 2011. Hikers from Islip to Soledad Cyn are asked to camp ONLY at Sulphur Springs CG, Messenger Flat CG, or North Fork Ranger Station. See Halfmile's detour maps. Closure info: ANF Order and Closure Map.
D7 393.8 L.RockCrk past Burkhart Tr - - - -
D7 395.3 Cooper Creek at Burkhart Trail - - - -
D7 396.9 Cooper Canyon Trail Campground - - - -
Enter campground, turn left, keep walking short distance to Cooper Canyon Creek.
D7 397.3 Headwaters of Cooper Canyon - - - -
D8 400.7 Camp Glenwood no water reported. After amp Glenwood & come out on Hwy 2, trail is NOT the closed road at beginning of Parking lot. There are many footprints going up this trail like we did just to throw you off. The trail is past the parking lot/dumpster/toilet. 5/12/11 PDD 5/18/11
Water 1/2 mile afer Camp Glenwood per JnB 5/19/11.
D8 401.9 UPDATE NEEDED!: Water flowing from a pipe on the left side of trail for nobo hikers per Paul 5/26/09 (There is a pipe leaking significant water (2 GPM) in a cement basin on left side of trail and obvious. ~5800'. To access, lift the BACK side of the steel plate.
D8 403.2+ Three Points Trailhead [Faucet permanently plugged off]
Newcomb's Ranch Restaurant 1.8 mile W (left if nobo) on Hwy 2 (Restaurant open 5/7 per Spitfire)
- - 5/20/11
D8 406.7 Sulphur Springs Camp source Stream near Sulphur Spring not flowing 11/18/11 Paul 11/26/11
D8 406.9 Sulphur Springs Campgrd (0.2 mi E) [6/15/09 All spigots in the campground have been capped off.] One of 3 approved PCT campsites in Station Fire burn area between Burkhart Trail & Mill Creek. - - -
If no water at the campground, check up near a concrete water tank with pipe.
D8 ~407 Stream n/o Sulphur Springs Camp (seasonal) - - - -
D9 410.6 Fiddleneck Spring barely flowing 11/18/11 Paul 11/26/11
Shaded seep about 5 ft above trail on side of Pacifico Mtn, size of piepan)
D9 411.1 Fountainhead Spring flowing 11/18/11 Paul 11/26/11
TYpically small pool size of shallow washbasin, running water sound, pumpable
D9 412+ Sheep Camp Spring (way below PCT) There was a trickle of water there not sure it would be worth a trip off trail 5/15/08 Trail90 5/17/08
D9 413.1 Pacifico Mtn Campgrd (off trail E) there is a self-filling “guzzler” rainwater catch-tank no water [no one has found the guzzler if it exists] 11/18/11 Paul 11/26/11
FIRE CLOSURE: The Angeles NF is CLOSED from Pacifico Mountain to Mill Creek Summit because of the Station Fire cleanup until 9/30/2011 or later. See Halfmile's detour maps. Closure order At mile 413.3 leave PCT and take close Pacifico Mtn Rd 4.6 miles to Mill Creek Summit (mile 418.7).

Poodle-dog bush or Common turricula is everywhere from about mile 410 to 437+. It is very concentrated around Mt. Gleason area or Mile 428 to 430. This bush can cause skin irritation similar to poison oak. If you plan on hiking in this area review images, symptoms and treatments before hiking in this area. Currently the plant is not showing the flowers so learn to identify it with and without flowers.

D9 418.5 Mill Crk Summit Trailhead Rd 3N17 BURNED 2009 (no water) 4/30/11 NITRO 5/1/11
(Pacifico Mtn/Pony Park) Faucet is on side of bathrooms at trailhead parking.
D9 418.7 Mill Creek Summit Ranger Station faucet on side of building works 11/18/11 Paul 11/26/11
D10 425.7 Big Buck Trail Camp (New) [This is usually dry] no water 11/18/11 Paul 11/26/11
D10 ~426.5 Old Big Buck Trail Camp site (early spring) good flow [???] 5/30/11 Bigfoot Jim 7/10/11
Book lists "new" Big Buck Trail Camp (425.7) which is "always" dry.Map D10 shows "old" "Big Buck Trail Camp" (~426.5) which is gone but in early spring has water in a shady ravine.
D11 430.7 Messenger Flats Camp USFS. NO water One of 3 approved PCT campsites in Station Fire burn area between Burkhart Trail & Mill Creek. 11/17/11 Paul 11/26/11
D12 432.2 Moody Cyn Rd (stream 50' before rd) creek flowing 11/17/11 Paul 11/26/11
D12 436.2 North Fork Ranger Station BPL Rd 4N32 Picnic area near ranger station is one of 3 approved PCT campsites in Station Fire burn area between Burkhart Trail & Mill Creek. Power and water are not operational. To assist PCT hikers Todd has cache. water cache 5 gallons Paul 11/26/11
D12 440.2 Mattox Canyon running 7/11/11 No Trace 7/14/11 -->
D13 444.2 Soledad Canyon Road RV Park KOA park 0.20 E. (good PCT hiker discount) - cross road & walk R thru huge open flat space to KOA. DO NOT cross the water.
Access to PCT nobo from parking hidden by sandpile. Just after 1st xing of creek turn hard right (E) & climb over sandpile. (Path is blazed with orange ribbons tied to trees as trail veers off to the right as you're travelling north per PCTA 4/12/10.) PCT goes thru unimproved west part of KOA. (June 2011 reports that Robin's Nest RV Park west of the KOA is now closed.)
6/2/10 Various 6/2/10
D13 444.3 Santa Clara River water 6/8/11 Dirtmonger 6/13/11
D13 451.0 Escondido Cyn just past tunnel under Hwy 14 little stream 5/27/11 3C 5/28/11
D13 452.8 Vasquez Rocks picnic area - - - -
there is a fountain behind a low but large juniper bush right by the pepper tree where the trail nears the parking area. Go to pepper tree; you'll see the horse nose troughs, then to your right you'll see the bush; go behind the bush and you'll see the fountain.
D13 453.5 Ranger station once on pavement, 0.2 miles on left by Park exit on Escondido Cyn Rd - - -
D13 454.4 Agua Dulce Sweetwater Farms Market has everything to eat & drink a hiker's heart desires. - - -
D13 454.4 Hiker Heaven (0.9 W) See note below. 2/15/10 Donna 2/21/10
All nobo PCT thruhikers should visit Hiker Heaven for mail, updated water reports, & current trail info. Mail can be picked up at Hiker Heaven 6am-10pm, 7 days per week. No other mail pickup locations are available in Agua Dulce. Hiker Heaven is open to host hikers from May 1 thru June 30. Hikers may stay a maximum of two nights. Exceptions considered for sick or injured persons. There is also a 50 hiker per night limit on a first-in basis. Non-hiking guests welcome to visit, but should make arrangements to stay elsewhere for showers, laundry, or overnight accommodations. We welcome all to Hiker Heaven.
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